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关于教育分的两个问题请教和关于雅斯新标准的适用范围的深入思考, 希望大家踊跃讨论! 鉴于一个贴子中发表长篇大论,希望大家给加分分了:
1)
本人基本条件:
北京07年6月FN, 12月13日考雅斯
工程硕士(只有学位,33学分外加论文) => 22分或25分
IELTS: L:7, R:6, W:5.5, S:6 => 根据旧条件：４，２，２，２；根据新条件：２，２，２，２
年龄：32 => 10分
工作: 9年 => 21分
老婆: 2年全日大专,3年成人教育本科(有学位,有学历) => 估计4分
根据旧条件: 25+10+10+21+4=70
根据新条件: 68分
请教:
(1) 搜索论坛发现所有关于学分转化学时的结论(一学分＝18学时,
一年＝35周×15学时/每周＝525学时,一整年是大概30学分)都没有CIC 官方网站上的证据,也没有最近申请成功前辈的确认.
不知道哪位大人可以帮我确认一下本人教育分是否一定可拿到25分? 如果可以, 怎样提供补料(学位的清华认证+学校的学分证明?? 学时证明怎么开)???
多谢了!!
(2)我老婆的教育可以拿到此为4分吗?
2)
为了以防万一,我又报考了2月的雅斯考试, 同时我也意识到万一再考不好, 我还面临同样的雅斯新旧标准的问题,所以我仔细研究了一下:
(1) 现有结论:
结论一:
关于2008年2月27日之前递交的申请，雅思的评分标准就按原来的标准，即：0-4.9，5.0-6.9，7.0-9.0 来评分；
关于2008年2月27日-2008年11月28日期间递交的申请，要根据雅思考试时间区别对待；
关于2008年11月28日及以后的申请，一律按现行的评分标准；
结论二:
2008年11月28日前递交的申请都根据雅思考试时间区别对待；
关于2008年11月28日及以后的申请，一律按现行的评分标准；
(2) 经过研究, 本人认为两种情况都有可能, 但第一个结论的可能性大些. 详细分析如下,请朋友们讨论.
如果有正在补料的朋友,也可以写信给大使馆确认一下.
(3)推理依据:
op06e: 下载见其他贴子
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-after.asp
(4)Details (结论二根据10.8很容易得出,以下只推理结论一):
(a) 根据op06e:
Federal Skilled Worker applications submitted before February 27, 2008 are to be processed by the visa office according to the legislation in effect at the time of application.
(b) 首先, 尽管本人不一定满足8.1中第六条的英语成绩提交要求, 本人的application应该在Feb 27, 2008之前, 因为根据8.2, 我已经拿到FN.
(c) regulation 属于legislation的一部分, 依据:
1. 8.1中: R10 prescribes what constitutes “an application” under the Act. 其中R10: Regulaiton10
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation:
The Government of Canada and the various provincial governments have the power to enact secondary legislation known as regulations by Order-in-Council.
(d) Page7: Language proficiency is based on R79 (Regulation79)
The table in 10.3 is based on R79 according to the first line. So it’s directly related to “legislation”.
The tables in 10.8 are equivalency charts.
The relationship between 10.3 & 10.8 is:
Second-language experts established the equivalencies between the four levels of language proficiency indicated in the Regulations, and the results of the language tests listed above. Thus, officers should award points based on the appropriate equivalency chart.
推论1: the tables in 10.8 can be viewed as one of the implementation of the table in 10.3, which is part of legislation. So if we follow the legislation, we may also follow the implementation of legislation at that time. => If we don’t follow the implementation of the legislation at that time, we don’t follow legislation at that time.
(e) Based on words in 10.4: Pursuant to R79(1), the points indicated above are awarded for proficiency in English and French based on either: a) language test results, submitted at time of application from an approved organization……
推论2: 分数的计算也是根据R79, 即根据legislation.
(f) 推论3: The op06e is not as strict as code. Contradiction can be seen elsewhere. So the tables in 10.8 can be viewed only for applicants after Feb 27th, 2008. I guess the table for applicants before Feb 27th, 2008 is either missing in 10.8 or:
From update history in page 3 & 4, we can see there is no change between Sep 1st, 2006 and Feb 27th, 2008. Based on the rule in (a) showed everywhere in op06e, we may assume that for applicants before Feb 27th, 08, the older version of the same document should be referred to, where 7 is 4 points. Due to update history, we may also assume the reader for 10.8 is only for applicants after that date.
(g)
根据http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-after.asp
If you applied before February 27, 2008, the visa office where you applied will contact you and ask you to provide the required documentation about four months before your application is to be processed. When they have verified your completed application, they will send you a letter to tell you what you need to do and what happens next.
Your application will always be processed according to the rules in place when you applied.
According to American Heritage Dictionary:
Rule的定义很广泛:
1. An authoritative, prescribed direction for conduct, especially one of the regulations governing procedure in a legislative body or a regulation observed by the players in a game, sport, or contest.
2. A generalized statement that describes what is true in most or all cases
3. A usual, customary, or generalized course of action or behavior:
4. A standard method or procedure for solving a class of problems.
推论4: So we can understand in this way: Second-language experts established rules for mapping of the equivalency charts. And we will use these rules when we submit application.
(h) 根据http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-after.asp
For applicants after Feb, 2008, CIC officer will make a final decision on your application based on the requirements for immigration to Canada at the time your application was submitted. The decision will be based on several selection factors, as well as the results of your medical examination and the criminal and security checks.
推论5: Here the requirements should certainly include the mapping of equivalency charts. By using common sense, we can infer this is also true for applicants before Feb, 2008.
友情提示:
根据以下文字:
Points for the applicant’s language proficiency are generally awarded according to evidence provided at the time the application is made. However, if further study, training, or testing is completed and documentation submitted between the time of application and the time of assessment, officers will use the most current results to determine point allocations. In terms of designated language test results, officers will NOT select the highest score for each language
ability from a variety of test score submissions. It is always the most recent group of tests that will be considered by
officer as it is the most current assessment of the applicant’s four language
abilities.
所以如果第二次雅斯没考好而且申请人提交了两次成绩上去,签证官将按第二次成绩算,不是第一次 |
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